Interesting the new BART station article did not mention the concern of many in the tri-valley area which is the possible increase in crime from the riff-raff coming in from the Hayward side. The Pleasanton police are concerned as is Stoneridge Mall. Time will tell now, won't it? Hopefully, saggy pants, who my daddy strollers, and cussing teens won't "enhance" our shopping centers.

I completely agree with Chris. My brother is a policeman in Pleasanton and the concern of an increase in crime/assaults at the mall is r e a l. Time will tell. Hopefully we don't turn into the Southland---Eastridge---Newark---Hilltop type malls.

THIS is why I come here -- for the unintentional comedy!

Why, it's The Invasion of the Brown People, coming soon to a theatre near a mall, near a BART station ... near YOU!

Or is it the tragedy of miser-able lives so flush with possessory opulence that the holders subsist in mortal fear of losing it? That's a mighty deep, if hermetically sterile, void you've created for yourselves.

Maybe you can find some brown people from over-the-hill to help dig you out.

Cardinal, you must be one of the PC ("politically correct") police. It's true that the earlier comments are not politically correct. But the potential for increased crime is real. I hope the fear is misplaced - we'll know soon enough.

Cardinal... Let it be know you are a very NAIVE person.

"Build it and they will come".

They always have and they will do it again...I am not talking about only black folks...I'm talking about Thugs.

Open your eyes...I hope the PPD keep their finger on the situation.

Thank you, Julia From Alamo

The hits -- they just keep on comin'.

AMAZING!!!! Cardinal immediately played the "race card" although prior postings steered clear of any racial comments! Goes to prove people, the racist is usually the one screaming "racist" first and the loudest AKA PC liberals!!

Thank you, Rick----my sentiments exactly!

I see.

We Leebruls are not supposed to be hip to the code -- that "riffraff from the Hayward side" and "saggy pants" and especially "who my daddy strollers" don't refer to "brown people?" Or that a "Hilltop-type mall" might involve contact with apparently-dreaded knee-grows?

I would note that the glee with which you claim I 'played the race-card' on the oh-so-innocent descriptors above, suggests that ridiculous racial fear doesn't lie very deep beneath the placidly homogenized surface of our only-subtly Xenophobic little burgs.

With that said, Jessica, and without consideration for terms of use, one must wonder if anyone actually used the new station and its parking facilities or even enjoyed a ride. Does it bear consideration that Walnut Creek's shopping has suffered nothing from the diversity of shopping brought by rapid transit including BART and the courtesy Green Trolleys.

Is there something quite southern about the southern reach into the tri-valley area? Has there been any cause for what has been said above. Does any stores in the Dublin/Pleasanton area sell baggie pants?

It is quite curious!

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Too bad "Cardinal" from Diablo no less (lol) is not living among the riff-raff from Hayward etc. Very revealing the red bird (hmm Stanford perhaps?) does not choose a "brown" (his label) area to live so he could experience the fullness of diversity.

Just in passing, the rather strange letters - — - in the headline are not gibberish. They are in actuality HTML code for a special character to displayed in the this case the long dash or em dash. The reason the em dash is not displayed is that someone forgot to put a space character after the word fanfare.

There are scads of special character codes such as the symbol for pi and the ampersand symbol & .

Oh, Dan, Dan, Dan -- this is the internets, where everybody can live in Diablo, and root for Stanford (wrong reference, btw, and it's not baseball, either -- but feel free to keep guessing), and we can all be any color--red, white, yellow, brown:

Truth (honest!) is, I located here to be near work, and later chose not to uproot my kids from their schools. I Have lived in the innerest of cities back east, and yes indeed, I enjoyed the mixture of communities there -- I never even got burgled or robbed, and if I did, my stuff's insured, and just stuff.

I also enjoy Danville, for other reasons -- and undoubtedly more so than certain of my paranoid Danvillain neighbors. The switching costs keep me hereabouts for the time being. I certainly wouldn't rule out moving closer-in and /involuntary gasp/ "browner."

Maybe everybody needs somebody to disparage -- in the cases above it's the dreaded brown people. I prefer to avoid status offenses, and focus instead on The Silly -- like folks who fear a new BART station on an existing line will somehow lead the peasantry to follow it, like campesinos on an oil road in the western Amazon.

I happily disparage The Silly, and you can disparage me. Fire away!

Groups of 5-10 people walking around the mall creates a flow obstruction. When coming from the opposite direction, I have been pushed against a wall so this group can move forward. Add in a stroller or three and there is no way around this slow-moving roadblock. Dynamics are totally changed by these groups as compared to more average suburban shoppers. Nothing about color, baggy pants, whatever--I don't like being forced aside.

Nice to have more transportation options for our Tri-Valley area! I welcome the addition.
And super glad there is parking and access from BOTH sides of 680.

yes, I hope it doesn't increase crime (by any race), but I personaly doubt that it changes the situation by any significant amount (since there already is another station in Dublin).

I hope BART eventually becomes a true BAY AREA system--circling and connecting the entire Bay. Wish there were some way for BART to come up through the 680 valley.

I don't think that many thieves choose BART as their getaway vehicle. Hayward criminals--or criminals from Pleasanton, Dublin, San Ramon--typically choose automobiles as their getaway vehicle.

Some folks will be relieved to learn that I drove past there this morning and, HOLEY SHISH KEBAB, the station appeared to be firmly in control of white folks.

They were everywhere.

Cardinal, you are a typical liberal. Lacking in any factual basis for making your case, you must resort to playing the race card in order to demean and silence any opposition to your position. I suggest you talk to the husband and children of the woman that was murdered in Lafayette about a decade ago. The three murderers arrived in her neighborhood on the Lafayette Bart, then walked a short distance to her home. The murder was discovered hours later when she failed to pick up her children at school. The assailants were long gone.

Cardinal a "Liberal"? Come on now, he may be a vodka swilling toad licking raconteur at times but to label him the EL word is beyond the pale. Let's try and be civil here and not incure the wrath of Lady Jessica...

Thanks for your support, jrm -- but I prefer to swill Scotch. ;-) As to the rest, I'll cop to it.

Without minimizing the personal tragedy of the Daher murder, there were some 653 (count 'em) other murders in Contra Costa County alone during the decade following her killing (all three of Mrs. Daher's killers were convicted and imprisoned, so they didn't do it). Web Link

Do you factor All those into your decision about whether to leave the house, ever? If so, I won't bring up the 200K thefts, or that > 60% of murder victims are intimates of their assailants, out of concern that you'll be found quivering in the corner of your attic.

Life is risk -- you take precautions and insure your stuff. But if your life is ruled by a single random (per the police) data-point more than 13 years old, then you live in self-induced misery.

And I submit that that's silly.

Cardinal, it appears that you are lacking in reason. Why do you think that property values per square foot in a high crime area are much lower than in a low crime area (all other aspects being equal)? Because rational people value living in an area where there is a lower risk of having a crime committed against their person or their property. Not considering crime rates in picking a place to live, or where to go, is "silly". Enjoy your childish delusions, cardinal.

So, stick, you wanted facts but quoted only one, so I gave a whole chart of them to you, recommending precaution but not obsession. Then you come back, studiously ignoring my post and citing instead some unnamed, unrelated "childish delusions." Is that about it?

Well, okay. Since that puts us in the realm of random insults, here's one for you: are you an indictment of the educational system -- or did it just never stand a chance?

Cardinal: There are relevant facts and irrelevant facts. Relevant facts would be murders committed in Lafayette before the BART station was built and after it was built, and whether the murderers used BART. The stat for murders in all of Contra Costa is not relevant to the discussion.

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We got trouble, yes friends we got trouble..
That begins with "T"
Which rhymes with "C"
And that stands for Cardinal!

Dare I remind you all what color Cardinals are....
Coincidence? I think NOT....
I'm just sayin.....

Hmmm. Some blackhawk hornin' in on my weblinks racket? Looks fishy to me, too.

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More scary than the BART station is what seems like extremely racist tone of many of the residents. I found the "who my daddy strollers" to be particulary offensive. I think you guys need to tone your hatred down. I live in the area and would surely like our area to be top target if/when the "revolution" comes.

Sorry -- typo in the last line -- it should read:
I live in the area and would surely NOT like our area to be top target if/when the "revolution" comes.