Ten suspects storm the store but no description of the perps.

LMP,
When there is no description of the perps you know the politically correct machine has been activated and the description of the perps is known to all.

This is frighteningly brazen...Not sure where to shop anymore with my kids...
Might as well be safe and shop over the net....

Absolutely shameful...

People come from all over bay area to this outlet and most of them are not shopping. Very few shopping bags in their hands. It is an outing. Many of them do not look like they can afford to buy a latte let alone pay the prices at many of the designer stores. I did not see much in the way of security at all during a recent visit. The one security guard I did see was chatting on his cell phone and two others were not paying much attention. Maybe now the owners of the mall will increase the security. Same thing has happened in Broadway Plaza - a group grabs and runs before police/security can arrive. Why don't they give us descriptions of the perps?

From the TV Herald account:

"... the suspects entered the store together in a large group, in an effort to overwhelm the clerks, Rebiejo said. Shortly after entering, they grabbed large stacks of denim and ran out to two waiting vehicles: a red, 1980s model, four-door Toyota Corolla and a silver vehicle resembling a Ford Taurus."

There. Sorry to disappoint you-all, but no black person would EVER risk getting caught in a 'four-door Corolla.' Your strenuous efforts to reinforce your racism once again Thwarted. Curses!

Now, does ANYbody see the delicious irony in stolen jeans costing $400 being branded "True Religion?" Ah, the Almighty Dollar! And whatever else happens, all this free advertising is destined to boost the stores sales.

Pass the collection plate.

cardinal,

Actually, the first post above to mention the race of the thieves was your post.

But since you brought it up, the 10 suspects in the Livermore True Religion store "mass shoplifting" were described by witnesses as being black, in their 20's, and consisting of 4 men and 6 women. This is per the article posted on KTVU-TV's web site:

Web Link

So apparently the indignity of having to drive a 1980's 4-door Toyota Corolla wasn't too much to bear... Actually, for ease of access, a 4-door sedan is preferred by most "mass shoplifters".

Whatever one's feelings are about the value, or lack thereof, in $400 jeans (I'm a Levi's guy, myself), theft is theft.

CRM: I guess the perps were going 'camo.' That said, are you really suggesting that racism/xenophobia didn't animate those curiosities, above, on this kind-and-gentle board?

@Louise - such a lame statement. So, what do you look like?
I think you are saying no one you saw was decked head to toe in designer labels, was white and had plastic surgery all over. Only if you had all that then you should be seen in Livermore outlets.

Why does everyone get their panties in a bunch anytime there is crime around here? Get over it .. all races commit crime and all communities have to deal with it once in a while.

Thanks for listening.

Julia Pardini from Alamo

Discussing race is dangerous.

Foolish, actually.

Say the wrong thing and you could lose your job, your customers, any chance of promotion, etc. You can be blackballed from job prospects. You can be taken to court and sued.

Nowadays, most active discussions on race occur only in the back alleys of the internet, on anonymous chat boards by people using pseudonyms. Even that is foolish. We know you are.

You shouldn’t even discuss race in private. With smart phones, any conversation can be easily recorded and you one click away from getting Mel Gibson-ized.

America used to punish criminal behavior only, but now punishes criminal speech. They call it hate speech. And it’s a crime.

It’s remarkable, given our history of free speech and the 1st Amendment.

America will forgive thieves, cheaters, and all manner of criminals. But watch what you say.

We have zero tolerance for certain types of speech.

Dear s-etc.: remind me not to accompany you to a crowded theater, as you defame its owner and threaten to harm her, because you think her production is prurient and without redeeming social value... just for early starters.

'nother words, provocateur, you know better.

I wasn’t making a normative statement. Merely an observation.

@spcwt, I suspect that you're no spring chicken like the rest of us. When you talk of an America where free speech was embraced and the 1st Amendment was cherished. Surely, you must recall the grand old McCarthy days where merely liking the color 'red' was enough to get you a scarlet letter tattooed to you forehead. Recall that many parts of this country, up through the mid-60's (some would argue much later), it was not socially condoned to speak your mind on race.

While I believe I know the point you are trying to drive home, let's recall that 'free speech' has always been continual struggle for the American experience.

Rule of thumb---whenever the physical description is MISSING from a crime report---odds are the perps are Black or Hispanic---bingo!! I was at this mall in the evening--a number of roving thug LOOKING punks----way to go Livermore!

Rule of thumb---whenever the physical description is MISSING from a crime report---odds are the perps are Black or Hispanic---bingo!! I was at this mall in the evening--a number of roving thug LOOKING punks----way to go Livermore!

Why don't the GP's (ghetto people) just stay in their own cribs? Oh wait-- part of that diversity mantra means we get to experience their thuggery lifestyle. Bad me...I'm not embracing-----

Good news!

I talked to the ghetto people, and they've agreed to stay in their crib, just as long as you stay in your sty.

Marlena Cortes - thanks for a good laugh! Enjoy your day...

Marlena is absolutely correct in her assessment. Perhaps Catherine and negotiator would like to stroll down the streets of Hayward or better yet--Oakland!! Lol!!!

May I suggest Negotiator crawl back into his/her toilet? Bleeding heart Commie!!

I would, madam, but you are presently clogging it.

@Negotiator - good one!

Julia Pardini from Alamo

By my calculation, the total value of the theft by the various investment advisors and mortgage brokers from Danville (all white, by the way) who have been indicted/arrested/convicted in the past few years FAR outweighs the few thousand dollars of jeans stolen in this heist. Yet, it is the race (and the "race/ghetto"-type comments) of the perpetrators of only this particular crime that seem to fascinate all the "enlightened" posters above.

The one big difference between the investment advisors and the mortgage brokers customers and the retail establishments that lost merchandise to robbers is that there is a willing participant in the transaction with the investment advisors/mortgage broker scenario. They may have been ignorant, but they are rarely coerced or threatened with a weapon. When people lose money that way,they always blame the company/bank that took them. Just because they ended up getting "ripped off" doesn't necessarily equate to the fact that they didn't have at least some knowledge and information on what they were investing in. I'll bet that store theft in retail is a pretty high number too.

Not by one person, it isn't. The "white-collar" rip-offs aren't investments gone bad. The are deliberate attempts to steal money from victims (just like the retail robberies, although perhaps more personal, since they are stealing from individuals). The are just as reprehensible. And they are just as illegal. The difference that I was pointing to, however, is that the race of the perpetrators only seems to matter to folks in this forum when it is not white. And the folks on this forum only seem to disparage other members of the perpetrators' race when they are not white. Right? When was the last time you heard someone on this forum ascribe the actions of a white criminal to the fact that he/she was white or was from a certain neighborhood. Right...never.

@Dave,

Good points. Question, how many $300 jeans (and corresponding low-life criminals) does it take to equal the horrible societal impact of one high-life criminal like Bernie Madoff?

Does anyone even know what the News report was? I can't believe how "off topic" these comments get. It reminds me of when I was a kid and you would sit in a circle and tell the person next to you a story in their ear and then they would tell it to the next and so on.. By the time you get to the end it is a completely different story and makes so sense. Yes their was a robbery they happen everyday. No there wasn't a descriptions right away, but if you can hold on for a day or so the news will release one. There is NO conspiracy sometimes they don't let out the information because it could hurt the investigation. Anyone ever think about that?
Thanks for reading,
Theresa

I just flushed negotiator but his liberal turd brain clogged the works.

Shouldn't have clogged---nothing in the brain cavity but meaningless leftist talking points.

Shouldn't have clogged---nothing in the brain cavity but meaningless leftist talking points.

Hey Frank: do you know what the first sign of dementia is?

(you start repeating stupid stuff)

I assume its permissible to be mad and/or bothered by all crime, whether it is financial fraud committed by "fatcats", or relatively minor thefts by "lowlifes" (to use someone else's term)?

The issue with minor crimes is that when there are enough of them, they add up to a lot. Just ask retail store owners and managers about their monthly or annual "shrinkage" (the euphemistic term applied to shoplifting, store theft, etc.)

Regardless of whether it is small numbers of large frauds, or large numbers of small thefts, we all end up paying in one way or another for both...

True. But, the outrage and the racial code words appear here only in response to the "retail" crimes.