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SRVUSD expected to see declining enrollment in years to come

Original post made on Oct 5, 2017

After years of a rising student population, it looks like the San Ramon Valley Unified School District will see declining enrollment in the next five years, based on recent data from demographers.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, October 4, 2017, 9:10 PM

Comments (23)

Posted by Dan Davis
a resident of Danville
on Oct 5, 2017 at 8:31 am

How about charging for out of district students. We pay a lot of money (bonds) to help keep our schools top rated so I'm not particularly enthused regarding others hitch hiking on our dollars.

If there is a law against this maybe asking the parents of those students to volunteer, etc. Just say'n.


Posted by Flabbergasted
a resident of San Ramon
on Oct 5, 2017 at 11:02 am

Congrats, Dan. I don't think I've ever seen a comment on this site that is MORE bubble-tastic and Danvillian than yours.


Posted by Stella
a resident of Danville
on Oct 5, 2017 at 12:08 pm

I think we are being primed for another school bond. VOTE NO!


Posted by wowza
a resident of Alamo
on Oct 5, 2017 at 2:45 pm

@Flabbergasted- your coining of the phrase "bubble-tastic" made my day. That needs to be an actual word. I am officially adopting it into my vocabulary. So good.


Posted by Rosie
a resident of Danville
on Oct 5, 2017 at 3:39 pm

Maybe movement within the district will become easier. My sons are in preschool now but will be sent to Los Cerros and Monte Vista even though we are walking distance to Charlotte Wood and San Ramon! I've even considered private schools to avoid the busing across town.


Posted by Scott Hale
a resident of San Ramon
on Oct 5, 2017 at 6:28 pm

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District enrollment might be down, but not in Dougherty Valley/Gale Ranch area. Still over a 1000 homes not yet completed and most of those will have grade school kids coming into this district. Quail Run Elementary school full all grades; diverting to Bella Vista, even if said house is right across the street from QRES....
Not only that, but a huge bubble approaching DVHS. Yeah, no decline here....


Posted by Dan Davis
a resident of Danville
on Oct 7, 2017 at 7:12 am

Hi Flabbergasted,

I happen to notice that my comment got 15 likes while yours got only two.

BTW are you afraid to print your real name?


Posted by Neighbor
a resident of San Ramon
on Oct 7, 2017 at 3:17 pm

The demographer must have missed driving through the continually booming development in the Dougherty Valley! It's ridiculous to say it will decline any time soon. It's also insane that they haven't built another middle or high school up there. WRMS, GRMS, and DVHS are at capacity...plus!


Posted by member
a resident of San Ramon
on Oct 7, 2017 at 3:44 pm

ddd


Posted by member
a resident of San Ramon
on Oct 7, 2017 at 3:51 pm

Residents in Windemere pay high tax for the best schools in Dougherty valley compared to GRMS, San Ramon & Danville residents. As long as the as burden of high tax rate is shared among other residents, movement with-in the district or other district should not be allowed especially into DVHS. No more tax hikes for compensating expenses in SRVUSD as well.


Posted by Scott Hale
a resident of San Ramon
on Oct 7, 2017 at 7:24 pm

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Member AKA Silly Screen name: You do know DVHS is in Gale Ranch, yeah? And that all Gale Ranch middle schoolers WILL go to DVHS?

Your Windemere extra taxes were due to infrature, not the school district. The school district bonds we ALL pay for.

It's the details.


Posted by Teacher in SRVUSD
a resident of Walnut Creek
on Oct 7, 2017 at 8:59 pm

Dan Davis makes the only intelligent post here. Do taxpayers/homeowners in the SR valley actually know how many students attend our schools while living in different counties? I have had dozens of students who commute from Tracy/Lathrop/Patterson, Fairfield/Vacaville, and San Leandro/Oakland, simply due to the fact that a parent works in Bishop Ranch. I'm not quite sure of the liberal logic behind this, I'm looking for an educated response.


Posted by Dan Davis
a resident of Danville
on Oct 8, 2017 at 8:25 am

TEACHER brings up an interesting point regarding out of district students. Assuming it's legal, perhaps the School Board could explore charging students who "actually" reside outside the district and attend our schools. It would be a nice income source which would be helpful in maintaining our quality of education.


Posted by Herman Glates
a resident of Danville
on Oct 10, 2017 at 7:44 am

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Greg Marvel said a decline of 660 students would result in a loss in funding of about $1.1 million and the district would need to figure out a way to reduce expenditures.

How about this: 660 students divided by 25 students per class means you need 26 fewer teachers. As the average teacher salary in the district is $77,320, cutting 26 teachers would save $2 million bucks per year in salary alone.

This looks like a perfect opportunity to get rid of some crummy teachers. Cut the dead wood.

Don’t get me wrong. SRVSD has some great teachers. But some are just collecting a paycheck.

Fewer classes also means you could get rid of many of the portable classrooms that SRVSD rents, resulting in additional cost savings. Those portables are currently sitting on the playgrounds where kids are supposed to be playing.


Posted by Teacher in SRVUSD
a resident of Walnut Creek
on Oct 10, 2017 at 8:54 pm

Herman Glates, you are spot on! Your Math makes sense. This is what some do not understand. Suppose there is a school with just two teachers. One is Gen Ed, the other is SPED. The Gen Ed teacher has 6 classes with 42 students each (oh my, not good). The SPED teacher has 6 classes with 8 students each. The district will calculate 42 + 8 = 50. Therefore, 50/2 = 25. The district will proudly announce that EACH teacher has 25 students per class. Figures can be manipulated. I am not complaining, I have 30 in my class at elementary and am happy.


Posted by Scott Hale
a resident of San Ramon
on Oct 11, 2017 at 10:57 am

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Herman: Your math is quite off as it assumes of the 32 schools the enrollment drop is even across them. It certainly is NOT. Take Dougherty Valley; enrollment is increasing at all the schools. A giant huge wad of kids are heading to DVHS in the next few years.
While true certain schools will see a drop and they will adjust to how many teachers there are, but with the teacher union, count on not being much of a drop in teachers, but hopefully a drop in students per teacher. One can hope. However, district still needs to deal with the drop in funding......


Posted by Herman Glates
a resident of Danville
on Oct 12, 2017 at 9:18 am

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There is nothing wrong with my math.

If there are any problems, it’s with the liberal politicians and their supporters.

Gob dagmit I hate sharing this planet with you people.


Posted by Scott Hale
a resident of San Ramon
on Oct 12, 2017 at 12:38 pm

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HG: Liberal? No moi. What are you? GOP/conservative minority (who make a lot of noise)?

Yeah, your math is off. Your math seems to assume the enrollment drop is even across all 36 schools; it isn't. The funding drop is REAL, letting go 26 teachers isn't.

Try and keep up old timer.


Posted by Herman Glates
a resident of Danville
on Oct 12, 2017 at 2:11 pm

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Well you sure sound like a Liberal, using words like “moi.”

This is America, Jack. Speak English.

You say there’s a problem because the enrollment drop ain’t even across all the schools.

That’s ain’t a problem. You got one school that’s crowded and one that ain’t? Well then the solution is you tell some of the people at the crowded school, “Sorry folks. This school is full. You got to send your kid to the uncrowded school until a spot frees up at the crowded school.”

Problem solved.

God, I wish Republicans were still in charge around here.


Posted by Scott Hale
a resident of San Ramon
on Oct 12, 2017 at 2:51 pm

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> Gob dagmit
>That’s ain’t a problem.
Speak English? Really? That doesn't seem to apply to you?

Back to topic: I see you failed to support your opinion (again). AND it seems you have no idea how the district or schools work...No kids in school, aye? Explains a lot.
When a school IS full they DO divert. Even in Dougherty Valley where the schools are new and with exception of one, at capacity already with over a 1000 new homes not even completed or moved into yet.

Get back to us when you can support losing 26 teachers to 'balance' the budget.

btw, name isn't Jack.

You can always move to a GOP state. FREE to go and be among like minded. Or is that closed minded. Buh Bye.


Posted by Herman Glates
a resident of Danville
on Oct 12, 2017 at 4:27 pm

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Yes!! Exactly!! You divert the kids away from the crowded schools and into the less-crowded schools. Thus, your point about some SRVSD schools having a surplus of students and others having a shortage is irrelevant. You move kids around to balance things out.

Meanwhile, you have 600 fewer students, so you need 26 fewer teachers, so you cut them.

Why is that so hard to understand?

And I ain’t going nowhere. I was born here, as was my pappy, my grand pappy, and great grand pappy. This place was fine until the likes of you showed up.

Now I will bid you good day.

I said GOOD DAY!!!


Posted by Scott Hale
a resident of San Ramon
on Oct 12, 2017 at 6:47 pm

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You still don't get the math. Your Trump math only works if there is exactly 30 student reduction at each school. Your teacher salary math, also quite 'fake news'.

The bottom line you seem to ignore (like Trump) is there will be no teacher layoffs. PERHAPS there will be fewer students in some classes; a good thing.

i suspect I've lived here much much longer than you and in the same 30 sq miles. kerboink.

Now go for a walk and get some nice fresh smoke air.


Posted by Herman Glates
a resident of Danville
on Oct 13, 2017 at 12:24 pm

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I wanted to apologize for being short with you yesterday. I was frustrated because it seemed you couldn’t understand the basic concept of moving kids to different schools in the district so that when you’re done, there’s the right number of kids at each school.

But then it dawned on me. Since you’re a liberal, maybe it would help if I explained it in terms a liberal can understand.

Suppose you’re a highly paid civil “servant” in charge of handing out free Obama Phones to welfare kids so they can learn the importance of relying on the government. Danville and Alamo have 600 fewer welfare kids because they have less Section 8 housing than does San Ramon. You hand out all the Obama Phones allotted to San Ramon, but you still have some San Ramon kids who didn’t get the free Obama Phones that their entitled to. So you tell those kids, sorry, we’re all out. To get your free Obama Phones, you have to go get them in Danville and Alamo.

Just like every welfare recipient will get the free Obama Phones that Democrats promised to them, every kid will get to attend a school in the district with the right teacher / kid ratio.

Get it?


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