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Danville: Mother of man killed in police shooting files civil rights suit against town

Original post made on Jun 21, 2019

The mother of Laudemer Arboleda, who was killed by a Danville police officer at the end of a short pursuit back in November, has filed a wrongful-death suit against the town of Danville in federal court alleging civil rights violations

Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, June 20, 2019, 4:07 PM

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Posted by William
a resident of Danville
on Jun 21, 2019 at 6:39 am

Lethal Force

I would want to know if the decedent was under the influence of any substance. His behavior prior to the shooting sounds bizarre, either psychotic or under the influence!


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Posted by Long time Resident
a resident of Walnut Creek
on Jun 21, 2019 at 8:05 am

Bizarre, psychotic and being under the influence is common these days. Its considered a norm in this country, you can see it all the way to the top. However none of those things are a crime. In fact those things are defined as mental illness and mental disorders and need treatment. They do not deserve to be shot at or treated poorly or stalked. They need medical attention. Just the other day i read a woman was locked up for 3 months for her cotton candy being mistaken as meth. We are to quick to react and misjudge a situation. We all seem to want the best, yet assume the worst in people. We have created the worst in all of us in doing so. My heart goes out to the mother and all involved.


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Posted by Long Term Resident
a resident of Danville
on Jun 21, 2019 at 9:05 am

Another frivolous lawsuit against law enforcement. According to earlier accounts, this guy pulled over for the police a couple of times and then sped off as they were approaching his car. When he got to the police car blockade on Diablo Road, he sped his car towards the officer who shot him. He was using his car as a weapon and the police officer defended himself. Others have argued the police officer could have jumped out of the way. That may be true, but the car would have likely hit innocent bystanders on Diablo Road had that happened. Hopefully, the facts will all come out during the trial and the jury will act accordingly. The Danville PD does an excellent job of keeping us safe and our town is highly regarded in that respect.


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Danville
on Jun 21, 2019 at 9:17 am

If he was slowly slowly driving away how could he possibly been “out of control” and struck multiple cars along the intersection. Physically impossible.
Burris the great ambulance/police chaser.


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Posted by Malcolm Hex
a resident of San Ramon
on Jun 21, 2019 at 10:24 am

Hey Long Time Resident,

You said: “They do not deserve to be shot at or treated poorly or stalked.” Please read the circumstances surrounding the unfortunate death of the decedent. The decedent became an officer safety threat. A car can be used as a weapon - in which this case it did.


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Posted by Old timer
a resident of Danville
on Jun 21, 2019 at 11:23 am

Burris is practicing his trade to enrich himself at the cost of others legally. He’s doing what he does for a living. The cost to the family Much more than expected when they find out more about where the assault with a deadly weapon occurred. I hope this reporter digs deeper into the police report that might save the family more grief. We know he stopped and ran off a few times before getting to Mt. Diablo Rd was he already shot on Laurel Dr?


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Posted by Mike
a resident of another community
on Jun 21, 2019 at 1:15 pm

The police have yet to release body cam to prove the officer was in danger. We will never know the results of the investigation because transparency and the Danville police are at opposite ends of the spectrum.

The bullets strike the passenger side of the front windshield. This means the officer was not directly in front of the car. A 9mm bullet can kill a person but does not stop a car. Police forces around the world have learned that you can not shot into a car without putting the public at risk.

The car with a dead or wounded driver became a 3000 lb deadly object endangering the public the police are sworn to protect. The car after the driver was shot crashed head first into cars on the opposite side of the road. Luckily no other driver was killed because then the lawsuit against Danville would include the family of the dead motorist. The police shooting into a car created the greatest threat to the public.

The car was not boxed in properly to prevent it from driving away for the 3rd time that day.

The police approached from the front. This is a very bad way to approach a car. Makes me wonder what training the Danville police have.

The police became frustrated that in the 2 previous attempts to stop the car he drove slowly away. So they attempted another ineffective stop and this time they decided to shoot him.

The Danville police policies should be reviewed by competent experienced police administration because they are not effective and are putting the public at risk. The fist stop attempt by police was illegal and the escalation into a threat to the public happened after the shooting of the driver.






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Posted by Danville
a resident of Danville
on Jun 21, 2019 at 5:33 pm

@Mike: For someone not from Danville, you sure seem to think to know a lot about the Danville P.D. Let me guess, the "other community" you are from is the Burris Law Firm? Speaking of the great Burris Law Firm, look up attorney John Burris at the California State Bar Website, www.calbar.org, and you will see he has a history of being in trouble for his conduct as an attorney. Maybe he should get his own behavior in order before trying to be a Monday morning quarterback and second guess split second life and death decisions made by law enforcement officers who risk their lives every single day to protect complete strangers.

Of course, the mom of this person they had to shoot in self defense is now suing the police. If he had such mental problems, what did she do to keep him and our society safe from him and his behavior? It has widely been reported that the Newark police department where he was from was very familiar with him due to his inappropriate and threatening behavior in their city. He was clearly a ticking bomb awaiting to go off and seriously hurt someone, and unfortunately that bomb went off in Danville. Did his mom provide him with the car to drive? Did she monitor his behavior and take steps to keep him away from hurting others? If she had spent the same amount of time in keeping him away from hurting others and himself that she has spent on tv and meeting with lawyers perhaps he would still be alive today.

We in Danville support our local police, who risk their lives everyday to protect us from people like the decedent and his mom who never take responsibility for their own actions. Stop blaming the police for your son's actions. Disobeying a lawful order from police to stop and recklessly driving off toward the path of an officer is putting the officer and us citizens at risk, and the last thing this officer wanted to do was shoot this guy. Do not give this mom and the John Burris's of the world a cent for this case, please take it to trial, and send a message that our town supports the lawful actions of the police and will not be intimidated by those who wish to try their cases in the media rather than in a court of law.


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Posted by Flash
a resident of Danville
on Jun 21, 2019 at 5:35 pm

My take from seeing shell tents on Laurel Dr that day may be a coincidence of another incident, maybe? But, I think the Car was parked under the 680 overpass pointing North, PD driving south stopped hood facing hood on Laurel Dr. While approaching the passenger side, diver reversed the car then attempted to run over the officer who got 3 rounds off while being assaulted by a deadly weapon (car). 3 shell tents in the middle of a PD blocked Laurel Dr indicated there was an attempted murder with an appropriate response in my view of course. The crime scene was on Laurel Dr. We knew he attempted to run over the Officer, just didn't connect where, or maybe even twice. There were a ton of shell tents on Front and Mt. Diablo with the crash made it easy to be focused on that was "the" scene. If this goes to trial, I'll be very surprised. Story over.


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Posted by Danville Resident
a resident of Danville
on Jun 24, 2019 at 7:24 am

Release the body cam footage


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Posted by Malcolm Hex
a resident of San Ramon
on Jun 24, 2019 at 11:49 pm

Hey everybody, Mike is a ballistics expert! Not only that, he said, “ We will never know the results of the investigation because transparency and the Danville police are at opposite ends of the spectrum.” Really, Mike? Since you know so much, why don’t you give an example. And please, use facts instead of rumor and innuendo.

By the way, since we will - as you put it - never know the results of the investigation, how is it that you know so much about the investigation? Huh? Do you know how to conduct a homicide investigation, Mike? Me thinks not.

Wannabes...


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Danville
on Jun 25, 2019 at 6:58 am

Danville PD needs to follow Sacramento PD lead with a policy to release all body cam video within 30 days of major incident. Afraid Danville PD body cam is not favorable in this case and they are hiding under the litigation cloud. Which we know from Sacramento PD is not a valid reason for not releasing video.


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Posted by Marie
a resident of Danville
on Jun 25, 2019 at 1:26 pm

NEVER RUN FROM THE POLICE! This is not a racial issue. It doesn’t matter what color you are. Teach your children never to run from the police. Do the right thing and this will never happen.


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Posted by JW
a resident of Alamo
on Jun 25, 2019 at 2:37 pm

I find his mom's assertion about the color of his skin playing a role in this laughable. Give me a break! Our neighborhoods are full of people with skin color other than white. If good old mom is correct, tens of thousands of people who live in San Ramon and/or Dublin in grave danger! Laughable.....


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Posted by Danville Resident
a resident of Danville
on Jun 29, 2019 at 10:45 am

On Monday, July 1, a new state law will require law enforcement agencies in California to release footage from body-worn cameras within 45 days of a “critical incident” in which an officer has fired at a person or used force that resulted in death or serious injury.

The measure, AB 748, will bring department protocols across the state in line with the Los Angeles Police Department’s policy, updated in April 2018, through which the department must release footage within 45 days, unless there are extenuating circumstances.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Danville
on Jun 29, 2019 at 3:31 pm

Sad that our police department is not transparent as we have seen in the recent denial of public records request. They believe that the public does not have a right to see how they investigated the drowning at srv high.
The public has a right to judge how they do their job.


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Posted by Chris
a resident of San Ramon
on Jul 1, 2019 at 10:01 am

@Marie "Do the right thing and this will never happen."

Tell that to all the people who have been locked up and then were later exonerated. Here's some examples for you:

In 2015, Coleman Stewart was sentenced to 45 days in jail in Boulder, Colorado, after he was shot by police officers who said he pointed a gun at them. He was exonerated in 2018 after a crime scene expert said the police version of events was impossible.

In 1992, Timmy Duke was sentenced to 25 years in prison for a burglary in Irving, Texas. He was exonerated in 2018 by police reports showing he was in jail in Lewisville, Texas at the time of the burglary.

Darrell Jones was sentenced to life in prison in 1986 for the murder of Guillermo Rodrigues in Brockton, Massachusetts. After a judge ruled that a police officer had lied on the witness stand, Jones received a new trial in 2017 and was acquitted in 2019.

In 2000, Stanley Mozee and Dennis Allen were sentenced to life in prison for murder in Dallas, Texas. They were exonerated in 2019, after DNA tests failed to link them to the crime, witnesses recanted testimony that implicated both men, and evidence showed the police and prosecution concealed evidence.

In 1996, Ian Simmers was sentenced to nearly 47 years in prison after falsely confessing to murder in King County, Washington. He was exonerated in 2019 after his confession was shown to be based on facts fed to him by police.

In 2010, Robert Lindsey was sentenced to two years in prison for possession of heroin in Chicago, Illinois. He was exonerated in 2019 after the police officer in charge of his case was convicted of framing suspected drug dealers and forcing people to pay bribes to avoid false arrest.

In 1984, Darrell Siggers was sentenced to life in prison for murder in Detroit, Michigan. He was exonerated in 2018 by evidence that he was not the gunman and that the police fabricated ballistics evidence.


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Danville
on Jul 1, 2019 at 10:16 am

Thumbs up to Danville's Police Dept. They keep us safe and put their lives on the line everyday. We were rated safest city in California and our police should be applauded for this. Outstanding job performance.


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Posted by Danville
a resident of Danville
on Jul 1, 2019 at 1:51 pm

@Chris: So, going back to the 1980's, you shared 6 examples of people allegedly being convicted for a crime they did not commit. Is that suppose to support your anti-police rhetoric? In 2016 135 police officers in the U.S. died in the line of duty, risking their lives to keep complete strangers safe. The police deserve respect and admiration for the incredibly difficult job they have to do, and when a criminal suspect refuses to follow a lawful order to stop and instead races his car toward the police and citizens, the police are not to blame for the deadly consequences.

If you are innocent, cooperate with the police, follow their orders, and you will have your day in court to challenge the arrest. Do not take the law into your own hands, and turn the situation into a life and death tragedy.


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Posted by Chris
a resident of San Ramon
on Jul 1, 2019 at 3:13 pm

@Danville The 6 examples that I shared demonstrate cases where the police specifically cannot be trusted and there are many more where the police are specifically cited for their behavior. In 2016 in the united states 179 people were exonerated of crimes they had been convicted of.

As for this case the man was trying to run from the cops. He'd pull over and stop, they'd get out of their cars, he'd drive away. That happened twice. Clearly he's trying to evade the police which gets him a year in the county slammer and $1,000 fine. Then when he gets to Front St and Diablo Rd everything changes. An officer ahead of his vehicle gets involved and now a one year sentence gets escalated to a death sentence. I'll be waiting to see the body cam footage before I place blame on either the driver or the officer.


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Posted by Rick
a resident of Danville
on Jul 1, 2019 at 5:28 pm

Rick is a registered user.

The situation escalated because of, and after Mr. Arboleda did not respond to lawful police orders. If he obeyed/stopped, as he'd been ordered to do at least twice, he'd be alive today and Atty. Burris would be chasing ambulances elsewhere. Considering Atty. Burris' filing, it seems like he's writing about the Titanic and not mentioning the iceberg.

We don't have to look very far to discover the volatile, dangerous nature of law enforcement. Officer Tara O'Sullivan, 26, was shot and killed a few weeks ago in Sacramento while on a family disturbance call. Who does her family sue?

Considering the number of police encounters every day, the benefit of doubt, and the vast majority of the public support, runs to the absolute benefit of our law enforcement officers.


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Posted by Chris
a resident of San Ramon
on Jul 2, 2019 at 10:05 am

@Rick Interesting you want to bring up the Titanic, a vehicle on which people were killed when they encountered an unforeseen danger in the form of an iceberg. In the case we're discussing there was also a vehicle involved and someone in that vehicle also got killed. Now I guess under your analogy that would make the officer the iceberg so maybe your analogy works. Maybe the officer popped up so quickly that the driver didn't have time to react to avoid him or maybe all the rounds the officer put through the passenger side of the windshield indicate the driver tried to swerve around the officer like the Titanic tried to turn to avoid the iceberg. Hopefully we'll get to see the body cam footage to see if your analogy that this was a Titanic incident holds true.


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Posted by BobB
a resident of another community
on Jul 2, 2019 at 6:10 pm

@Rick,

We shouldn't give the "benefit of the doubt" to the officer or anyone else. If the officer did wrong, that officer should suffer consequences, just like anyone else.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Danville
on Jul 4, 2019 at 9:11 am

Danville PD never cleaned house after the DUI entrapment scandal. How do a corrupt cops take bribes and arrest people under the direction of a divorce lawyer without being noticed by there supervision? Unless the supervision is not doing it's job.

Police officers need to be rotated in/out of Danville to insure Danville PD can react correctly to critical situations. One critical situation every 5 years does not count as an experienced police force. Danville deserves police officers that can react correctly even if they are rarely needed. The people of Danville are the reason the crime rate is low it is not the police. Some of the most outstanding police officers work in some of the highest crime rate areas because they would die of boredom policing the good people of Danville.

The reaction of the Danville PD after the shooting was an example of how inexperienced the administration is. Chief Shields said it was a justified shooting the very next day. How is it possible to complete an investigation of a shooting in one day.


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Posted by Rick
a resident of Danville
on Jul 4, 2019 at 11:33 pm

Rick is a registered user.

@Chris, @ BobB - before you jump in my chili, please consider:
1. Benefit of the doubt is the essential element of innocent until PROVEN guilt - not deemed guilty, actually proven guilty. Your prejudice betrays you.
2. Please avoid invoking the classic lib/neoprog/MSM trope that notwithstanding the quality and validity of our facts the severity of the "charges" makes "the accused" deemed guilty.
2. @Chris - the reference to Titanic/iceberg is merely to point out that the "Mother of a Man Killed" article glosses over the facts associated with Mr. Arboleda's seemingly unlawful acts and goes into labored, conjectured detail about law enforcement offences. Any other tortured analysis is pointless and futile.

@Chris and @ BobB please make ample room for the Observer’s Paradox.


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Posted by Malcolm Hex
a resident of San Ramon
on Jul 6, 2019 at 10:03 pm

@ Parent

You said: Danville PD never cleaned house after the DUI entrapment scandal.

Really? Tell ya what, why don't you check your facts - or lack thereof - first.

On September 3, 2013, A federal jury convicted a former Danville police officer - Stephan Tanabe - of six felonies for his role in the so-called “Dirty DUI” scheme to set up men for drunken-driving arrests that could be used against them in family court.

Your credibility just took a hit.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Danville
on Jul 6, 2019 at 11:13 pm

Malcolm Hex,
The book on the event details that a lot of supervision was looking the other way which enabled the corrupt cop. So to "clean house" means that everyone that failed in doing their job should have been fired or prosecuted.

Even the Danville dirty cop got a sentence below federal guide lines. A cop found guilty of a crime deserves the punishment. He is aware of the law and used his position for his financial gain at the expense of others. The corrupt cop was given a deal with a light sentence. He involved other officers in the scheme when he was out and could not perform the needed DUI entrapment arrest.

But you did your research so I am sure you have read the book and are aware of all the facts. Might have missed the relationship the corrupt Danville officer had with the drug dealing corrupt Contra Costa officers. " A sobbing former Contra Costa County drug task force commander was sentenced Monday to 14 years in federal prison for stealing drug evidence, robbing prostitutes and making phony arrests."

In both case the men responsible for supervising the corrupt cops were never held accountable. The corruption was found out by a reporter or otherwise it would be still going on today.

Transparency is the only way to insure power does not corrupt. Danville PD deny public records request and withhold body cam because the supervision does not want accountability.

Please continue your research. Would like to know all the names of the supervision that allowed the corrupt cops to operate.


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Posted by Malcolm Hex
a resident of San Ramon
on Jul 7, 2019 at 8:33 am

@ Parent

What "book" are you talking about? But more to the point, the "drug dealing officer" you ramble on about also went to prison.

Norman Wielsch, former head of an elite Contra Costa County vice squad was sentenced to 14 years in federal prison. By the way, does that sound like a reduced prison sentence to you?

Furthermore, you said: "Danville PD deny public records request and withhold body cam because the supervision does not want accountability."

Since you know so much, who is the "supervisor" you speak? Better yet, who are the homicide investigators working on the case? Hmm? You made a claim with unsupported evidence - material or otherwise.

You no absolutely nothing about the case other than what has been said in the papers. Until the investigation is over, I suggest you not pass judgement until a conclusion is reached.

By the way, your credibility as a witness in a court of law would be suspect based on the unproven claims you made here.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Danville
on Jul 7, 2019 at 10:07 am

Malcolm Hex,
Research is more than 5 minutes with google. The book is "The Setup: A True Story of Dirty Cops, Soccer Moms, and Reality TV"

As I stated the Danville cop is the one that got a light sentence. He received a 15 month sentence "Federal sentencing guidelines called for between 21 and 27 months in prison; Judge Charles Breyer did not explain why he handed Tanabe a shorter term." The sentence handed to cops should be at the max side of federal guide lines because they have the power to ruin/kill people. Just as teachers and priest they are put into positions of trust and need to be held accountable for their actions.

"Once all investigations are completed, we look forward to sharing the full details with the public Livingston said." Contra Costa County Sheriff David Livingston who is the supervisor of Danville PD made this statement November 19, 2018 . The officer is back on the job so I would have to believe the investigation is completed. The deadline for "sharing the full details" has long expired. Let start at the top and work down for supervision that is not being held accountable. Livingston also denied multiple public records request from this site for another Danville PD completed investigation.

Good luck on waiting for the investigation to be completed. I would follow the court record to see if they settle out of court. Google can help on how to view progress of court proceedings. Because Danville PD have a habit of never revisiting past promises of "sharing full details".

Would love to spend more time on your education but I am getting tired of your anger.


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Posted by Malcolm Hex
a resident of San Ramon
on Jul 7, 2019 at 11:23 pm

@ Parent

No anger here Parent. I'm just pointing out the flaws in your angst. Your emotion overrides the lack of facts in your argument.

Title 18 of the United States Code is the main criminal code of the federal government of the United States. There is NOTHING in the Title 18 which states that federal sentencing guidelines are any different for police officers then that of the general public.

What you appear to be saying is that the former police officers you post about were given lighter sentences because they were police officers? If so, prove it!






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Posted by Chris
a resident of San Ramon
on Jul 9, 2019 at 9:15 am

@Rick The facts of the matter are:

1) A man fitting Mr. Arboleda's description was seen walking around with bags in a residential neighborhood

2) Mr. Arboleda was not stopping for police

3) Mr. Arboleda was shot and killed by a police officer through the passenger side of his windshield

Fact #3 calls into question whether officer was actually in any danger since it appears he'd have to be to the side of the vehicle to shoot through the passenger side of the windshield and into the driver.

Now as a citizen, I question why the police decided the pursuit had to turn into a stop or die situation. Did the officer really maintain a safe, center mass shot as he emptied his gun? What happens if the driver isn't killed and is now literally fleeing for his life, potentially wounded, into a crowded downtown or onto a crowded freeway?


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Posted by Malcolm Hex
a resident of San Ramon
on Jul 9, 2019 at 11:06 pm

@ Chris. You said:

"Did the officer really maintain a safe, center mass shot as he emptied his gun?"

Think about what you just said. What is a "safe center mass shot?" If the driver was driving towards the officer, the officer would only be able to shoot into the decedent's upper torso - unless the officer was standing on the hood of the car - which he was not.

I love listening to pseudo ballistics experts - including the wannabe detectives.

By the way, as you said, did the officer really empty 18 rounds into the victim? I bring this to light because most departments use 9mm Glocks (Glock 17) that have 17 round capacity magazines - including one in the pipe.

Cheers


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Posted by Ballastics Expert
a resident of Danville
on Jul 10, 2019 at 6:23 am

Malcolm Hex,
1) Bullets travel in a straight line for a least 50 yards.
2) 7 bullet holes visible on passenger side of windshield with no bullet holes crossing the center line of the car. Passenger side window shattered. Possible more rounds impacted passenger window. The bullet holes include holes at the far edge of the passenger side of front windshield.

3) Using 1 & 2 we can determine the officer was not in front of the car in order to have killed the driver.

I passed my college physics class so unless you can break the laws of physics the officer was not standing in front of the car. He was approaching the car from front walking on the sidewalk. The car started to pull out so he started shooting at the driver. The pattern of shots indicate as car pulled out the officer continued shooting which required bullets to strike further into passenger side of windshield or order to maintain aim on driver. The bullets hole climb up the windshield as they progress further into the passenger side which makes sense as the car passes by the cop. Officer is on swat team so I am sure he maintained is aim on the driver.


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Posted by Malcolm Hex
a resident of San Ramon
on Jul 10, 2019 at 11:50 am

Ah, the side window... Thank you clarifying - which of course makes your point about hitting center mass moot. Can't hit center mass from the side

Ah, the bullet holes... You said the officer emptied his gun. Yet, you now claim there were seven bullet holes? As I stated earlier, most, if not all law enforcement agencies use Glocks - especially the Glock 17 (which hold 17 rounds in the magazine plus one in the pipe.

Ah, the trajectory theory... The case is still under investigation. Are you working on the case, detective?

Ya know, once upon a time, there was this guy named Lee Harvey Oswald...


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Posted by Resident
a resident of San Ramon
on Jul 16, 2019 at 6:05 pm

M.H's reasoning/logic is a joke.


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Posted by Malcolm Hex
a resident of San Ramon
on Jul 17, 2019 at 4:18 am

@ Resident

Whatever you say, super sleuth.


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Posted by Ranger Up
a resident of Walnut Creek
on Jul 27, 2019 at 1:18 am

Sure are a lot of crime fighters here. My question is, if the investigation has not been completed, then how do we know what happened?

All I see in the comments section is a bunch of fools pretending to be detectives. In this case, Malcolm is correct.

For example: Ballistics Expert said bullets travel in a straight line for a least 50 yards.

Uh... And I do mean, uh... 50 yards equals only 150 feet.

Typically a 9 mm bullet shot out of a medium sized handgun will travel 2200 meters before it will fall to the ground. 2200 meters = 7217 feet 10.173 inches. In essence, the 9mm projectile will fly in a straight line well over 50 yards.

Where do these people come from? Talking to you Ballistics Expert


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Posted by Ballistics Expert
a resident of Danville
on Jul 27, 2019 at 8:40 am

Ranger Up,
" While the 1.8" in drop of the 9mm bullet at 50 yards may not sound bad, it all goes downhill from there. In fact at the 100 yard mark the bullet will have dropped -12.0311 inches (over a foot). So if you are shooting at a target 100 yards away you need to aim a full foot above the target, and without a scope that is very hard to judge at that distance."

Danville PD confirmed the investigation is completed and no they are not going to release the body cam or details.



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Posted by Ranger Up
a resident of Walnut Creek
on Jul 28, 2019 at 8:50 am

@ Ballistics Expert.

You said said the following:

"Danville PD confirmed the investigation is completed and no they are not going to release the body cam or details."

Really? Where is the report?

Before I call you a liar, quote your source. I find nothing stating the investigation has been completed.


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Posted by mrszalewski2
a resident of Danville
on Aug 1, 2019 at 7:09 am

mrszalewski2 is a registered user.

A sad situation all around. A young man who needed on going help and didn’t receive it which led to his demise. John Burris, whom I’m not a fan. And, the Danville police department whom will never divulge the truth of the occurrence.


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Posted by Malcolm Hex
a resident of San Ramon
on Aug 1, 2019 at 9:37 am

@ Ballistics Expert / Parent / Chris / mrszalewski2 /

Well, well, well...

Ballistics Expert said the following on July 27, 2019:

"Danville PD confirmed the investigation is completed and no they are not going to release the body cam or details."

Oh really? First of all, you lied - primarily because you are incredibly ignorant of the law. The jury just found that the decedent was killed by the hands of another - not by suicide or accident. Which means this: The coroner’s inquest is meant to wrap up the formal death investigation, allowing investigators to present all their evidence with the public - for the first time.

SO, ONCE AGAIN, THE REPORT WAS NOT COMPLETED WHEN BALLISTICS EXPERT SAID IS WAS. SECOND, DANVILLE PD WILL RELEASE THE REPORT.

And finally... Please do not use the excuse that the civil lawsuit filed by the decedent’s family is what forced Danville PD to release information in the report to the public. The information in the report would have been open to “discovery” anyway. The reason? It’s a public report!

A hurdle needed to be cleared before the information in the death of the decedent could be released to the public. So, yes, Danville PD will finally be able to present their side of what happened.


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Posted by Tim
a resident of Danville
on Aug 1, 2019 at 2:46 pm

M.H ,
Police investigations are completed week/months before the Coroner’s inquest is completed. I could see that the Danville police would confirm that they are done with their investigation.

Police reports are not public record until the police honor a public records request. The Danville police have a history of denying public records request for their completed investigation.


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Posted by Malcolm Hex
a resident of Walnut Creek
on Aug 1, 2019 at 11:07 pm

Tim, you are missing the point. Ballistic Expert said the report was available when it was not - at least not to the public.

While police records are subject to state public records laws like the California Public Records Act, many types of police records are specifically exempt from disclosure. As a result, police departments vary widely in how they respond to reporters' requests for arrest or crime reports.

In many cases, the courts determine how information is disseminated. Danville PD is no better or worse than other departments.


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Posted by Faith
a resident of Danville
on Aug 3, 2019 at 12:49 pm

If only they had let compassion guide them instead of fear, if only they had let good sense and training guide them instead of panic, if only they had followed a multitude of recommendations made by previous inquests, then he would be alive today in jail or not. Theres no need for an innocent life to be taken away out of fear. Police could have shot at the tires and block him so that his car wouldn't swerve into the public if all worked together.. why so quick to point the gun at someones life?

Yes, the victim was also in fear, clearly shows since he never fully stopped for the police. But i don't blame him.. how many people (and i’m not only talking about just the community of danville) still get their life taken away even after the fact they surrender to the police? This justice system needs some retraining to keep up with the standards and policies. And maybe just then, law suits will decrease.


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Posted by Malcolm Hex
a resident of Walnut Creek
on Aug 4, 2019 at 9:41 am

Uh oh, whack-a-doodle alert!

Ye old Faith sounds off but makes absolutely no sense. Let us guide ye Faith and point out the holes in her convictions. Here. We. Go!

Faith said: “If only they had let compassion guide them instead of fear.” Well Faith, were you at the scene when this incident took place? Maybe the officer feared for his life and took action to save his life. If that is the case, compassion is a moot point - unless you believe it is wrong to protect ones self.

Faith said: “If only they had let good sense and training guide them instead of panic.” Once again, were you at the scene when this incident took place? How do you know the officer panicked? Do you know how the officer was trained?

Oh, but your nonsense gets better...

Faith said: “If only they had followed a multitude of recommendations made by previous inquests, then he would be alive today in jail or not.” Say what? What the hell are talking about? Inquests?

Faith said: “Theres no need for an innocent life to be taken away out of fear.” Oh yes there is. First of all, the decedent was not innocent. He became a suspect once he refused to follow commands given to him by law enforcement. Second, if you are in fear of your safety (meaning your life), you have every right to defend yourself - including the taking of a life.

Faith said: “Police could have shot at the tires...” Doesn’t work like that. Shooting tires at close range will not stop the threat - the driver can still power the vehicle.

But here is the winner of the day!!!

Faith said: “Yes, the victim was also in fear, clearly shows since he never fully stopped for the police. But i don't blame him...” I don’t blame him? Again, another ‘say what?’ moment. You don’t blame the decedent for not following orders given to him by law enforcement? Wow.

I have to ask: where in the world do these kinds of liberals come from? How much you wanna bet old Faith here supports the likes of Antifa, AOC, Talib, and Omar? Just guessing.











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Posted by Malcolm Hex
a resident of San Ramon
on Aug 14, 2019 at 11:14 pm

Sonoma County Sheriff’s Deputy shoots through car window, shattering glass and wounding the assailant. Source - Channel 2

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The deputy tries to open his patrol-vehicle door, but the suspect closes it shut. That's when he fires six rounds from his firearm, shattering the driver-side window and injuring the suspect. The incident began at Santa Rosa Plaza shopping center, where employees said the 42-year-old suspect, Brad Baymon of Minnesota, tried to steal a pair of shoes and then tried to stab them with a pocket knife.

The 911 dispatch call is from a Macy's employee who calmly describes the situation as it unfolds. He tells the dispatcher the suspect has a pocket knife and that there was an attempted stabbing.

"He literally tried to kill us ma'am. He literally tried to stab us in the neck," the Macy's assets protection manager said over the phone.

Hey Parent! The deputy fired several shots - THROUGH THE PASSENGER SIDE WINDOW SHATTERING GLASS - at the suspect who tried to take his patrol car after attempting to stab innocent victims.


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