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Authorities identify subject, officer from Danville police shooting

Original post made on Mar 14, 2021

Two days after a police shooting in Danville, authorities have ID'd the man who remains in critical condition with a gunshot wound as well as the sheriff's deputy who fired the shot -- the same officer from the town's 2018 fatal OIS.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Saturday, March 13, 2021, 7:25 PM

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Posted by D
a resident of Danville
on Mar 14, 2021 at 7:12 am

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This was a completely legal and moral shooting by the police officer, in self defense. Why is it in today's environment the media ignores the dangerous actions by the criminal, and what a threat it was to the public, and instead loves to play monday morning quarterback, questioning everything the police do to protect law abiding citizens from the actions of these criminals? There have been reports that this criminal may have been the same person police were looking for in seriously injuring others in Contra Costa by previously throwing bricks and rocks from overpasses at vehicles. If this officer did not arrive and stop this criminal, how many more innocent people would have been injured? Commit a crime, and then pull a knife on the police, there will be consequences. Thank you, officer, for risking your life to keep us law abiding citizens safe.


Posted by Paul Clark
a resident of Danville
on Mar 14, 2021 at 9:36 am

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"Registered User" wrote: "This was a completely legal and moral shooting by the police officer, in self defense."

I wonder just how he/she knows this? There will be a extensive investigation that will determine whether the use of deadly force was justified. For me, it is concerning that this same officer shot and killed another citizen less than two years ago. And I ask myself just what are the odds of an officer having to use deadly force twice in that timeframe. And that the family of the dead citizen is suing for wrongful death. We all should be concerned about the possibility that this particular officer reaches for his gun too quickly.


Posted by D
a resident of Danville
on Mar 14, 2021 at 2:12 pm

D is a registered user.

@Paul Clark: You asked how do I know this was a completely legal and moral justified shooting, and you are concerned that this officer was sued for wrongful death, and that he "may reach for his gun too quickly".

First, we have all seen the body cam photo, attached to this article, showing the criminal with the knife out in attack position, so it is undisputed that he not only ignored the officer's command to surrender but also pulled out a knife. When a criminal ignores an officer's command to surrender and then escalates the situation by pulling a knife on the officer, the officer is completely legally and morally justified in shooting him in self defense. The officer only shot him once, which is appropriate for this dangerous situation.

Second, there is no relevance what so ever that this officer has been sued for wrongful death. Anyone can sue anyone over anything in this state, and there are many attorneys who routinely file questionable lawsuits, hoping to try their cases in the media, rather than in a court of law, hoping for a quick settlement. Simply being sued for something means nothing, and in today's climate most officers will ultimately be sued no matter what they do, as it is an occupational hazard.

Third, as to your claim that this officer "reaches for his gun too quickly", what would you prefer he reach for when a criminal ignores his command to surrender and instead escalates the situation by pulling a knife on the officer? This is a very busy intersection, with many pedestrians walking near the overpass where this criminal was throwing rocks and objects at passing by cars. If this officer did not act, this criminal could have stabbed the officer or a pedestrian, or tried to car jack a vehicle, or some other dangerous activity that would have be a threat to law abiding citizens. If the officer paused, and this criminal threw another rock over the overpass, he could have killed someone driving. Stop supporting criminals!


Posted by Paul Clark
a resident of Danville
on Mar 14, 2021 at 8:40 pm

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To the Anonymous D: Unlike you, I use my real name. It does seem strange since you appear to have "all the answers." Unlike you, I don't claim to have any answers at this juncture.
But some of your comments are amazing to me.

1. I don't support criminals, but I do support justice and the appropriateness of force deployed in proportion to the threat presented. The rock thrower did not represent a threat to anyone except the officer when confronted. As near as I can tell, when he was shot, he was advancing on the officer, and not throwing rocks. I don't see how a folding pocket knife represents such threat to life that it should be met with being shot. I am left wondering why the officer didn't simply taze the guy and cuff him.

2. The officer's prior behavior while on duty IS a matter of concern which I imagine will be part of the process of determining his suitability for continued employment. To suggest that the fact that he killed a citizen only two years ago isn't at all relevant is specious on its face. Even in this day and age, where life seemingly has less value, police organizations take the discharge of a firearm by one of their number very seriously.

3. You seem to mix up what is "legal" with what is "moral." The fact that one has the ability and the means to take a life "legally," doesn't make it "moral", or in some instances, even justified.

Lastly, my suspicion is that you are either current or retired "law enforcement," in the way you approach this issue. I understand that every cop wants to "go home" every night, and that forms the rationale for their use of force. But every cop should have a "moral compass" that helps him in his decision making. Sometimes cops have to make split-second decisions, this doesn't seem to be one of those times from my perspective. Neither of us know what the mental state of this perp was because what he was doing wasn't rational. Maybe a through investigation will give us some answers.


Posted by D
a resident of Danville
on Mar 15, 2021 at 6:46 am

D is a registered user.

@Paul Clark- Your comments are contradictory. You claim to have an opinion that we need to wait for the investigation to conclude to analyse the situation, but then spend the rest of your time doing the opposite by jumping to conclusions that the "officer reaches for his gun too quickly", and because he was sued before(a shooting that the prior investigation concluded was completely justified as criminal ignored commands to stop and drove a car at the officer) that this is a "problem officer". The only comment you made that was correct is today "life has less value", as you have no concerns for the life of the police officer when confronted with a criminal who ignores commands and instead comes at him in attack mode with a knife.


Posted by Paul Clark
a resident of Danville
on Mar 15, 2021 at 8:28 am

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"Officer D" You should at least be correct in your statements. According to the article, the investigation into the shooting of the guy by Officer Hall in 2018 is still ongoing. Which would indicate that Hall has not been exonerated, at least not yet. It leaves one wondering just why he was returned to duty.

From the original article:

"The outcome of the DA's office investigation in that case is still pending. It was not immediately clear when Hall was cleared to return to full active duty after the Arboleda case."

"Our criminal investigation into the Arboleda shooting is ongoing. A public report would be released if no charges were filed against the officer. I don't have a timeline of when our investigation would be complete," said Scott Alonso, spokesperson for the DA's office."

I still stand by my statement that Hall is "trigger happy," and I hope that at the minimum, he is reassigned by the Sheriff's Dept. to duty somewhere else in Contra Costa County. Danville doesn't need a man like Hall "protecting" us. The vast majority of police officers NEVER fire their weapon at someone for the entirety of their careers. Hall has already done it twice.


Posted by Jennifer
a resident of Danville
on Mar 15, 2021 at 11:22 am

Jennifer is a registered user.

I don't believe the officer was "trigger happy" at all. A lot of us actually SUPPORT law enforcement.

As far as using your "real name" online -- there is no such thing. People use fictitious names all the time, pretending to be authentic. Unless your CDL has been scanned, and your photo matches your physical appearance -- online you are who you say you are.


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