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Danville council to discuss potential gun storage regulations

Study session conversation on proposed ordinance

The Danville Town Council is set to talk Tuesday morning about the possibility of a new ordinance that would regulate how firearms should be stored within town limits, following a request from several public speakers at a previous council meeting.

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City attorney Rob Ewing is set to lead a presentation on the potential ordinance at the council's upcoming study session, following a request during the public comment period of the June 6 Town Council meeting in which speakers requested they consider the option.

The discussion is set to center on a model ordinance that was presented by public commenters in June and to give the council an opportunity to weigh in on the matter, which they could not do at the previous meeting under the Brown Act due to it being a non-agendized item at the time.

Under the model ordinance, anyone storing firearms in properties within the town limits must meet several conditions or face an infraction. It would require that firearms stored on premises be unloaded and secured in a locked container, unless they have an attached locking device or they are in the immediate control and possession of their owners.

Gun owners whose weapons were to get lost or go missing would not be considered in violation of the ordinance if they report the loss or theft within the five days required under state law.

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While state law already places restrictions on gun storage in homes where children are known to be present or have access, the model ordinance would expand that restriction to all homes, regardless of the presence of children, and would add the requirement that firearms be stored unloaded.

According to a staff report from Ewing prepared for the upcoming meeting, this could pose a challenge for local police.

"Because the required conduct -- storage of a firearm within a residence -- would be within a residence, there would be no basis for the police to inquire as to compliance, likely resulting in becoming aware of potential violations only after the fact," Ewing said.

However, that has not stopped neighboring cities from enacting parallel policies, with Pleasanton passing a gun safe storage ordinance in 2021, preceded by Dublin and Livermore in 2020. Moraga and Orinda both passed ordinances in 2018, with Lafayette, Walnut Creek and Antioch doing the same last year.

The Contra Costa County Board of Supervisors also directed the Sheriff's Office to draft a gun safe storage ordinance this July, with no draft being made available to the public so far.

The model ordinance up for discussion in Danville would be the first one locally to include the requirement that firearms be unloaded, according to Ewing's report.

"All of these locally adopted ordinances are similar to the proposed model ordinance, with one exception," Ewing said. "None of these other ordinances require that the firearm be unloaded -- they only require storage in a locked container or with a safety device."

"There are a number of other cities throughout California that have adopted some form of gun safe storage ordinance, but town staff has not reviewed them to determine the details of how they work," he continued.

Two points of consideration for the Town Council and the City Attorney's Office are that any local ordinance is prevented from preempting state law -- meaning that it cannot duplicate, contradict or conflict with existing state law -- as well as potential challenges under the second amendment.

With the upcoming presentation and discussion being informational only, Ewing is requesting direction from the council on next steps for town staff to prepare any additional information or action.

The Danville Town Council is set to meet at 8:30 a.m. Tuesday (Sept. 12). The agenda is available here.

In other business, councilmembers will begin discussing plans for the next Mayor's Installation and Community Awards Ceremony.

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Danville council to discuss potential gun storage regulations

Study session conversation on proposed ordinance

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Uploaded: Mon, Sep 11, 2023, 4:19 pm

The Danville Town Council is set to talk Tuesday morning about the possibility of a new ordinance that would regulate how firearms should be stored within town limits, following a request from several public speakers at a previous council meeting.

City attorney Rob Ewing is set to lead a presentation on the potential ordinance at the council's upcoming study session, following a request during the public comment period of the June 6 Town Council meeting in which speakers requested they consider the option.

The discussion is set to center on a model ordinance that was presented by public commenters in June and to give the council an opportunity to weigh in on the matter, which they could not do at the previous meeting under the Brown Act due to it being a non-agendized item at the time.

Under the model ordinance, anyone storing firearms in properties within the town limits must meet several conditions or face an infraction. It would require that firearms stored on premises be unloaded and secured in a locked container, unless they have an attached locking device or they are in the immediate control and possession of their owners.

Gun owners whose weapons were to get lost or go missing would not be considered in violation of the ordinance if they report the loss or theft within the five days required under state law.

While state law already places restrictions on gun storage in homes where children are known to be present or have access, the model ordinance would expand that restriction to all homes, regardless of the presence of children, and would add the requirement that firearms be stored unloaded.

According to a staff report from Ewing prepared for the upcoming meeting, this could pose a challenge for local police.

"Because the required conduct -- storage of a firearm within a residence -- would be within a residence, there would be no basis for the police to inquire as to compliance, likely resulting in becoming aware of potential violations only after the fact," Ewing said.

However, that has not stopped neighboring cities from enacting parallel policies, with Pleasanton passing a gun safe storage ordinance in 2021, preceded by Dublin and Livermore in 2020. Moraga and Orinda both passed ordinances in 2018, with Lafayette, Walnut Creek and Antioch doing the same last year.

The Contra Costa County Board of Supervisors also directed the Sheriff's Office to draft a gun safe storage ordinance this July, with no draft being made available to the public so far.

The model ordinance up for discussion in Danville would be the first one locally to include the requirement that firearms be unloaded, according to Ewing's report.

"All of these locally adopted ordinances are similar to the proposed model ordinance, with one exception," Ewing said. "None of these other ordinances require that the firearm be unloaded -- they only require storage in a locked container or with a safety device."

"There are a number of other cities throughout California that have adopted some form of gun safe storage ordinance, but town staff has not reviewed them to determine the details of how they work," he continued.

Two points of consideration for the Town Council and the City Attorney's Office are that any local ordinance is prevented from preempting state law -- meaning that it cannot duplicate, contradict or conflict with existing state law -- as well as potential challenges under the second amendment.

With the upcoming presentation and discussion being informational only, Ewing is requesting direction from the council on next steps for town staff to prepare any additional information or action.

The Danville Town Council is set to meet at 8:30 a.m. Tuesday (Sept. 12). The agenda is available here.

In other business, councilmembers will begin discussing plans for the next Mayor's Installation and Community Awards Ceremony.

Comments

Parent and Voter
Registered user
Danville
on Sep 12, 2023 at 6:30 am
Parent and Voter, Danville
Registered user
on Sep 12, 2023 at 6:30 am

The current gun laws already require the standards that Danville is proposing for homes with children. I hope that Danville does not let a few vocal people push thru the proposed changes.
What is sad is that drugs are killing large numbers of people... including children.
Yet the legalization of more and more drugs is occurring. Perhaps we need to take a look at that and also have strict standards for the storage of drugs in homes. Just a thought.


Guns Unlimited Repair
Registered user
another community
on Sep 13, 2023 at 4:45 pm
Guns Unlimited Repair , another community
Registered user
on Sep 13, 2023 at 4:45 pm

The Danville City Council did the right thing by not going forward with a city ordinance that would just add another law that the State already has in place. The state has several laws that cover locking your guns up. The Moms Demand Action are not very educated on state or federal gun laws. The citizens of Danville are so lucky to have 5 members on the council that seem this as a request not needed.
Congratulations Danville!!


Paul Clark
Registered user
Danville
on Sep 14, 2023 at 10:44 am
Paul Clark, Danville
Registered user
on Sep 14, 2023 at 10:44 am

So once again, our Town Council is pursuing the "solution" to a non-existent problem because a couple of Liberal "transplants" are trying to use it to achieve their "objective" of a "gun free" town. As the other commenter has posted, State Law pre-empts any local ordinance respecting firearms. With all the issues with which Danville needs to deal, this seems like a waste of the council's time. As far as I can determine, the only recent gun deaths in Danville were at the hands of one of our county sheriff-run police department's officers. The former officer is serving a six-year prison term, and Danville has had to pay out nearly $10 million in reparations to the families of the two who were killed. I am not aware of any other citizen of Danville, irrespective of age being injured in any way by a firearm. It sort of defeats any reason for having a firearm in your home for personal protection if you have to have it both locked up and unloaded, but of course that's the real objective of those proposing the ordinance in the first place.


Bill Thompson
Registered user
Danville
on Sep 14, 2023 at 12:41 pm
Bill Thompson, Danville
Registered user
on Sep 14, 2023 at 12:41 pm

Would this ordinance also apply to firearms loaded with non-lethal ammunition?

I grew up on a farm and our shotguns were often loaded with rock salt to deter trespassers and varmints.

Rock salt is not lethal but it stings like heck.


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