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Driving has taken on a whole new dimension now that summer’s in full swing. There seem to be cyclists at every turn, whizzing down the road in throngs that take up half the lane.

Who are these two-wheeled flocks dominating the streets? Well, the Valley is ripe with cycling groups and racing teams – and with Mount Diablo and Morgan Territory to the east, Sunol down south, Briones Regional Park up north and Las Trampas and the Berkeley Hills to the west, they frequently cut right through Danville and Alamo.

But sharing the roads isn’t always easy. Drivers say bicyclists put themselves at risk by riding in large groups on narrow streets or ignoring the rules of the road. Cyclists say they have just as much right to be there as their 4-wheeled counterparts. It begs the question: Can’t we all just get along?

THE SPANDEX GAGGLE

“We call them ‘a gaggle of spandex,'” said Bob Worthington. He and his wife live on Laurel Drive in Danville, a popular throughway for cyclists.

“On Saturday or Sunday it’s not unusual to see 75 in a group all of a sudden fly by,” he said. “I’ve gotten in the habit where I’ll stand on my porch and try to count them all, just to see if I can do it. Count them all as they speed by. It’s tough.”

Seventy-five may be pushing it, but a group of up to 50 isn’t unheard of. And they’ll often ride two, three or four abreast. Alameda County is considering a law to require bike clubs hosting group rides of 50 or more to apply for a permit, which the county sheriff’s office could approve or deny.

Here, more and more residents are expressing frustration with the “gaggles” and their apparent disregard for the rules of the road. Two particular trouble spots are Hartz Avenue in downtown Danville and Railroad Avenue between Prospect Avenue and Linda Mesa, where space is tight, cars are parked on the side of the street, and there are no bike lanes.

When the town expanded the Clocktower Parking Lot two years ago it narrowed Railroad Avenue from four lanes to two and took out the bike lane; the space was about a foot too narrow to keep it in.

The town built up the curb along the side of the road, rather than having it slope down as usual, so bikes could still use the area to ride. And they regularly do, but the close quarters put them at risk of, say, being clipped by a car making a right turn or getting “doored” by someone coming out of a parked car.

“When you put 15, 20 bicyclists at once simultaneously in a group, that’s tough,” said Linda Stolow, owner of the Small Frye Shoppe on Railroad Avenue. “All it takes is one misplaced movement and you can knock over a bunch of bikes.”

Alice Anthony and her husband Alex Ianuono have been biking in Danville for more than 30 years – long enough to have gained insight on the cycling culture in town.

“I honestly think that people who drive cars are so impatient that they don’t – in America – want to share the roads with anyone,” Anthony said. “They seem to have this idea that they’re only built for them.”

People don’t always think to look out for bikes, agreed Jim Kohnen, president of the Dublin-based Valley Spokesmen.

The Valley Spokesmen is one of the biggest cycling clubs in the East Bay, along with the Grizzly Peak Cyclists out of Berkeley and the Fremont Freewheelers.

Danville and Alamo also see riders from Diablo Cyclist, Strada Sempre Duro and Folks on Spokes, all based out of Walnut Creek, and an advanced group called the House of Pain, which meets at the Rudgear Road Park and Ride.

Kohnen said Danville is a great place to bike, except for the busy sections downtown.

“The people are shopping so they’re not paying any attention,” he said. “They open doors in front of us, and they don’t look. The bicyclists have to be really careful during the three blocks on Railroad and Hartz.”

WHAT ABOUT THE IRON HORSE TRAIL?

Careful is something any experienced cyclist knows to be. Regardless of fault or blame, when bikes and cars share the road both parties should be extra alert.

Few know this better, perhaps, than tri-athlete star Chris Lieto, a 3-time Ironman Champion and Danville native.

“You’ve gotta be aware,” he said. “You’re on a bike. You don’t have a lot of steel around you to protect you. And a lot of times cars don’t see you. They’re looking for a car – they’re not looking for a cyclist.”

“Every time I ride, my eyes are scanning all over the place, watching cars,” he continued. “Because the cars think they have the right to be on the road and we don’t.”

Stolow said safety is the main reason drivers can get frustrated with the cycling masses.

“No driver who’s worth their salt wants to harm a pedestrian or a bicyclist,” she said. Yet cyclists increase the chances of that happening by putting themselves at risk, drivers say.

“One of these days somebody’s going to try to swing around these bikers and there’s going to be a car coming in the other direction. And I can just imagine the disaster,” said Worthington.

Many people, including Danville Mayor Candace Andersen, strongly encourage bicyclists to ride along the Iron Horse Trail instead of the street. At least through the narrow jag of town, she said, “in my mind it’s a great option.”

“They’re putting themselves at risk on Railroad and, you know, 40 feet away, 50 feet away is the Iron Horse Trial! And it’s much nicer, it’s much prettier – it’s pleasant,” said Stolow.

For the lone or casual cyclist the trail is certainly an excellent choice. But hardcore cyclists say it’s not for them – no way.

“We would get a lot of letters from pedestrians saying it’s very unsafe and dangerous. There’d be a lot more accidents if people road their bikes on the Iron Horse Trail,” said Lieto.

“You have 20 bicyclists going 20 mph and some lady pushing her baby carriage, talking on her cell phone and has a dog in the other hand,” Kohnen said. “It’s a disaster.”

The speed limit on the trail is 15 miles per hour – too slow for long, fast rides, cyclists say. Plus, they don’t like having to stop at almost every block to cross a street.

“If you really want to ride your bike, you don’t take that trail,” said Anthony.

Still for everyone’s safety cyclists must go slower in the downtown area, many say, and Andersen pointed out that even with its obstacles, the trail offers more room than a bike lane does.

If people do choose to bike on the streets, she said, then they just have to be sure to abide by the rules of the road.

THE LAW: BIKES ARE CARS, TOO

Legally, there’s no difference between a bike and a car when it comes to traffic rules. Realistically, it’s no secret that more than a few cyclists tend to be loose about following those rules.

They’ll even admit it.

“Bicyclists blow through red lights; bicyclists make illegal turns; bicyclists do stupid stuff all the time – sometimes in front of a police car,” said Kohnen. “And very rarely do they get stopped.”

If police don’t enforce the rules, cyclists likely won’t be apt to follow them, he said.

Danville Police Chief Chris Wenzel said it’s against the law to ride two or more abreast on the street. He couldn’t remember how many citations had been issued for breaking that rule, but guessed it was probably only one, if any.

“Ask them how many tickets they’ve given for bicycle violations and you’ll probably get, ‘Huh?'” Kohnen said. “They probably don’t even know how to write a bicycle ticket.”

In fact, they do. Police issue about six to 10 bike citations per month, normally for failing to stop at a red light or stop sign. They have to prioritize where to use resources, said Wenzel. “We have enough to do already than worry about groups of bicyclists who don’t follow the law.”

Ideally, police would love to trust the cyclists to be responsible and follow the rules so they don’t need to spend time ticketing, he said.

The issue can’t be ignored, though. Residents will point the finger at police, Wenzel said, asking, “What are you guys doing about this?”

“I think that some way or another, the Town of Danville has to get the word out to the cyclists that they have to obey the same traffic rules as an automobile,” Worthington said. “I think the cyclists need to be made aware of the danger they are imposing.”

Kohnen suspects many police officers don’t think cyclist groups should be on the roads at all, “but the state law says we have as much right to the road as cars.”

Being synonymous with a car comes with all the rights of one, but also all the responsibilities. In other words, cyclists can’t have their cake and eat it too.

A classic example is 4-way stops. Drivers assume a person on a bike is going to follow the law and yield to whoever arrives at the intersection first. But often they’ll zoom through without stopping, and sometimes that’ll be right in front of a turning vehicle, said Wenzel.

The rules are there for the safety of the public, he said. “I’m not telling anybody not to ride their bicycle through town … We have to work together.”

COEXISTING ON THE ROADS

With gas prices averaging $4.50 a gallon it shouldn’t come as a surprise that a growing number of people are benching the gas-guzzlers and bringing their bikes back onto the field.

Heightened environmental awareness and health consciousness further the rising popularity of cycling, said Jose Gutierrez, owner of Danville Bike.

The owner of California Bike, John Knowles, said cycling is once again the “cool” thing to do. They’ve both noticed more customers coming into the store in the past few months.

“There’s no reason why the cyclists and the cars can’t get along. I mean it happens in Europe. They get along just fine,” said Gutierrez.

But others point out that ours is still a culture dominated by the automobile.

“America was never set up for it,” Anthony said. “Because we produced cars and that became one of our biggest products.”

In the first half of the 20th century public opinion shifted in favor of cars, buses and highways over bicycles and trains, she pointed out.

Still, most people agree Danville and Alamo are pretty comfortable places to ride.

“We live in a town that’s perfect for biking and going to get groceries or going and running errands, and we want to encourage that as much as possible,” said Lieto.

If more people start riding their bikes it could make Danville safer for everyone; the more prevalent cycling is in a community the fewer bike accidents there are, said East Bay Bike Coalition’s executive director, Robert Raburn. If there are enough bicyclists around, motorists expect to see them. He called it “safety in numbers.”

“And that’s what leads to, I think, a shift in behavior, to know that we’re sharing this road,” he said. “The good news is, that shift is happening.”

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  1. “You have 20 bicyclists going 20 mph and some lady pushing her baby carriage, talking on her cell phone and has a dog in the other hand,” Kohnen said. “It’s a disaster.”

    Yeah, thats what we drivers feel about the packs of spandex clad bicyclists-20 bicyclists doing 20 mph in the middle of the road, riding in rows of 3-4, weaving in and out of the bike lanes, blocking cars trying to go 25 mph. It’s a disaster.

  2. So bicyclists don’t follow traffic rules, don’t want to share the trails with pedestrians, and are generally snotty about the people who walk on trails. Sounds exactly like the attitude of the bicyclists in this area, for sure, especially the ones who ride in big groups.

  3. I hope the price of gas goes up to $10 per gallon soon so there will be fewer inconsiderate drivers in big SUVs who feel entitled to the road and bully cyclists and more people actually using their bikes on the road for transportation. In Europe where the price of fuel is double the US the drivers have much more respect for cyclists on the road and there is less unnecessary automobile use and in general more rationally sized vehicles.

  4. Thanks for the article. I ride my bike a lot – in street clothes for errands, and wearing spandex for recreation. I would like to see my fellow cyclists observe the rules of the road more, and I would like to see motorists take the right of way when it is theirs. I get frustrated when I come to a stop at a four way stop or something like that and a motorist who has the right of way waves me through. It’s a good thing that the motorist notices me. Still, I want to be taken seriously, as the equal of a car.

    The ordinance proposed in Alameda County that you refer to is ill-conceived and should be scrapped. It would only apply to special events for which riders pay an admission fee. The groups your article refers to do not fall in that category.

    As Robert Raburn points out the more bicyclists become part of the landscape the more motorists will notice us, and everyone will be safer. We’ll all benefit from using the road network more effectively, and we can all enjoy the equable climate here for exercising outdoors all year round.

  5. It’s too bad people are used to cyclists breaking the rules. When I’m on my bike I stop at stop signs, but most drivers will wave me through, contrary to the right-of-way.

    If I wanted to blow the stop sign, I would have. You got there first in your car, you go first. I can’t track-stand forever, so quit holding us all up and go already.

  6. It’s too bad that so many car drivers don’t realize that cyclists have just as much right to the roads as motorists.

    Maybe some of that fat accumulating around their bellies has percolated up to their brains, making it difficult for them to engage in a simple task such as reading the vehicle code.

  7. I am both a motorist who obeys the laws and an avid road cyclist who obeys the laws, as well as a cycle coach. I probably see as many motorists making mistakes or disobeying the laws (especially pertaining to right-of-way issues) as I see cyclists doing the same. I’d like to see people just obey the rules of the road, and if motorists aren’t familiar with the CA vehicle code, they should become familiar with it. When obstacles exist on the right side of the road, cyclists have every right to move into the road and “take the lane”.

    As far as being a resident of Danville, I was very discouraged when the bike lane was taken away on Railroad Avenue. Now there is no place EXCEPT the middle of the road for cyclists to ride. Too close to the right hand side of the ride means being possibly “doored” by motorists who don’t look behind them before opening their doors.

    Riding on the Iron Horse Trail is not a great alternative for road cyclists. In fact, I consider it dangerous for cyclists because of the multi-purpose-designated use of the trail: pedestrians of all ages, recreational cyclists, skaters, dog walkers etc. And many of these are wearing I-pods, which makes passing them extremely precarious.

    If both motorists and cyclists just obeyed the law, I think much of the animosity between the two groups would disappear.

  8. Often cyclists must “weave” in and out of the bike lane because of the Hartz Ave. used car lot. Prospective buyers stop thir own cars in the bike lane to look at the cars for sale, or walk in the bike lane with their back to traffic, not concerned at all that a cyclist riding in the bike lane will have to leave the lane in order to avoid them. Since Danville Blvd has no sidewalks you also have many pedestrians obstructing the bike lanes. Danville should consider an ordinance forbidding parked cars with for sale signs on its streets, or enforcing such an ordinance if it has one. Danville should also consider sidewalks for pedestrians. It was a mistake to remove the bike lane on Railroad. Bikes must ride in bike lanes, but when there are no bike lanes or when you allow people and cars to obstruct them, your hallowed streets are going to be used by cyclists. Get over it.

  9. I have to agree with Phil and Randy, it would be nice if both motorists and bikers obey the laws. Waving bikers through on a four way stop is actually more frustrating for the biker than just taking your turn efficiently.

    Keeping everyone safe is definitely a dual-responsibility. At the end of the day, however, no matter who is at fault, a collision will have much greater consequences for the biker (though I imagine the mental anguish of living with yourself after hurting or killing a biker would also be great). I doubt motorists who do not ride recognize how harrowing rides can be…without our diligent, alert approach to riding, my husband or I would be injured at least once every ride.

    To echo others, the iron horse trail is not a realistic alternative and would only serve to a) get a bunch of riders to break the law by speeding (>15 mph) on the trail and b) put pedestrians/familys/dogs/and other users at risk. The trail could only be an alternative if the paved area was designated specifically for bikes with pedestrians using the non-paved areas (as other cities do).

    Regardless, we’ll all (cyclists AND motorists) be much better off if the cell phone law is effective. This morning I was encouraged to only count 2 people using their phones while driving instead of the usual 30-50%.

  10. I’m actually from Lafayette, and I race for one of the local road racing teams.

    When I’m in a different town, city, or part of the world I like to go by the old rule, “When in Rome, do as the Romans do.”

    In other words, when I’m in Danville I like to yield to the locals when and wherever there’s a driveway, walkway, stop sign, etc. I also like to cut the local motorists some slack when it comes to lane space, etc., but I also gotta have some room. If there’s parked cars or glass in the bike lane, then I’m gonna take some space for a bit in the road. Re stop signs, I see just as many cars rolling and blowing signs, not using their turn signals as I do cyclists. The problem is on both ends.

    And coming from direct experience, the trails around here are not an option for cyclists. Using the trails makes it dangerous for the many pedestrians and runners who use them. Realistically, those trails should be left for dog walkers, a casual stroll with a good friend, a mind clearing jog before or after work, etc. Let those people have their space.

    I remember being in Germany and France a few years ago when gas cost about $5 or $6 U.S. I was amazed at the number of bikes on the road and at train stations. I was in Karlsrue, Germany for a monday holiday and all I saw were families on bikes together. With gas prices what they are, this problem of bike riders and car drivers may just take care of itself. Like the Euro’s, we may not have much choice but to migrate toward a “bike culture”.

    There is so much room for all of us out there. Be respectful. Look out for each other. We’re all mom’s and dad’s, sons and daughters. If I treat you like you were a family friend or even relative, instead of an obstacle for me to negotiate, I know chances are both you and I’ll get home safe. My 7 year old will have his dad to play with and your family will have one of their favorite people another day.

    Safe journey.

  11. Pedestrians walking in the bike lane, potholes, glass, tree limbs, and this morning garbage cans forced me to ride into the lane on Danville Blvd. Also, on Railroad Ave the congestion is essentially 2 blocks long. If a bicycle is forced to ride in the lane because of opening doors, etc. it’s not a life altering delay for a driver. We can all share the road. I ride regularly on Sycamore and Camino Tassajara and there is always debris in the bike lane as well as poor road surfaces at points. Drivers have to realize that often times a bicycle is in the right lane and not in the bike lane for a reason.

  12. Lets keep a little perspective here. In the past few months on my daily (non-bicycle) commute, I’ve seen other drivers: eating breakfast, including one person eating cold cereal from a bowl using both hands, shaving, putting on makeup, reading newspapers, programming their GPS’s, using their Blackberries, fooling around with their radios, and I don’t need to mention how many I see talking on their cell phones. And of course, there are the ubiquitous erratic, incompetent, and aggressive drivers, drunk drivers, seriously sleep deprived drivers, stoned drivers, etc. All to often I see cars blow by me on the freeway at 100+ MPH. How often do you see a driver blow through a red light, and really, be honest, how rare is it that we actually see a car come to a full stop at a stop sign? You know, the good ol’ “California Stop”. I was stopped at a red light recently behind another car, and apparently the guy decided he had stopped long enough and just drove on through long before it turned green. How often do you see drivers shoot across four lanes on a busy freeway because they are about to miss their off-ramp?

    Drivers don’t come close to taking the task of driving seriously enough, and tens of thousands pay the price every year.

    Sure, there are poorly behaved cyclists who blow stop signs and such, and generally ride unsafely, but there are many thousands of bad drivers for each of those cyclists, whose behavior is far worse, far more dangerous, and far more destructive. Those drivers cause thousands of deaths each year. But the behavior of those drivers is just accepted as part of the driving experience, while cyclists, even the well behaved ones, are vilified.

  13. I think we could all improve on our habits to share the road. Drivers should, however, have a little more respect for people on bikes. Really, how hard is it to push the brake or gas and turn the steering wheel? Why are most drivers in such a hurry anyway? Did you sit in traffic on the “freeway” taking 1 hour to go 7 miles? Ride a bike and get there faster, be healthy, sleep better and enjoy life. Cycling is good for body, mind and spirit. If we could only get rid of those pesky cars the world would be a much better place.

  14. “Yeah, thats what we drivers feel about the packs of spandex clad bicyclists-20 bicyclists doing 20 mph in the middle of the road, riding in rows of 3-4, weaving in and out of the bike lanes, blocking cars trying to go 25 mph. It’s a disaster.”

    Speak for yourself.

  15. Can I just ask what the big deal is when you forced to wait the 30 seconds (or maybe even 2 minutes…) it takes to *safely* pass a “gaggle of spandex”?

    Honestly, I think if you can’t budget in how ever much time it takes to pass a group of cyclists, you probably have some bigger time management issues to deal with…

  16. Can I just ask what the big deal is for bicyclists to ride single file in the bike lane, instead of 4 across, all talking and socializing while riding?

    Honestly, if you can’t deal with riding a bicycle in single file instead of right next to 3 others, you probably have some bigger issues to deal with.

  17. Good article. Hey, anyone ever have any trouble with a group of bicyclists who ride old fashioned style bikes on the Iron Horse Trail? On Tuesday nights about 20+ riders from this group ride all over the trail forcing walkers, runners and moms with kids off the pavement and into the dirt. These people lack trail etiquette. A friend of mine was told to run in the dirt when he complained about this group riding to close to him on the pavement. I personally have had a runner almost run into me because he was forced off the path by this group. The bottom line is that we all have to share this trail. Please be more considerate towards others.

  18. Oh, come on! I ride that route from San Ramon to Lafayette every day on my commute to work. Sure there are “gaggles of spandex”, but how frequently? A large group every five minutes? Puh-leeez! Not even close! There are probably only a handful of gaggles in a day. Annoyed by cyclists talking and socializing? Take a chill pill. Chances are when you drive that road the next day they won’t be there. Car traffic, on the other hand, is constant in that area. Cars sometimes have to deal with cyclists. Cyclists *always* have to deal with cars.

  19. OMG! Cyclists were TALKING and socializing? You should have hung up your cell phone and called the freakin’ police.

  20. I bike to work from San Ramon to Shadelands 2-3X per week. I try to stay off Iron Horse (too many pedestrians, children, dogs, and runners to contend with) and I try to stay in the bike lanes, but sometimes I have to go in the streets. It’s really unavoidable: the bike lanes are not as well maintained as the auto lanes (debris, garbage cans, drains, tree limbs, etc.), and at any rate bikes are allowed to ride there. I try to be as considerate as possible to bikers when I’m driving and to drivers when I’m biking (as I’m sure the vast majority of both do), but of course I’m not a perfect driver nor am I a perfect biker. The reality of the situation is that on the bike I’m obviously much more vulnerable than in the car.

    I can share a number of positive stories about gracious drivers, but there are a couple of nasty driver stories I want to share: (1) Once a lady in a Navigator almost killed my as she ran through a stop sign (it would be generous to call what she did a “California Stop”). She was talking on her cell phone and farding at the same time (Google it if you’re not familiar with the term). After she nearly hit me she drove by and started yelling obscenities! It was too funny! (2) Last week, at the corner of Rudgear and Danville, a passenger hung his head out of the window, started yelling obsenities about bikers at my friend and me, and threw a bottle at us. Very classy!

    These two people don’t represent the vast majority of considerate drivers.

  21. I started to bike to work on a fairly regular basis 3 years ago. Over 6,000 commute miles, and 80+ pounds lost since. I have seen cyclists blow through stop signs in Danville, and other unsafe violations of the vehicle code. I don’t condone it at all. I also think it reflects poorly on the vast majority of riders who are out there doing the right thing. However, I have witnessed FAR worse behavior and more frequent, from drivers. I have had stuff yelled at me when I was doing nothing more than riding peacefully in the bike lane, cars coming up right next to me and blaring the horn to “shock me.” Cars intentionally or unintentionally swerving into the bike lane going over 50 MPH and nearly hitting me which would undoubtedly end my life on the spot. I have almost been hit three times at the Ironhorse crossing at Hartz….by drivers who blow through a stale RED light (maybe they don’t expect to see a stop light there or maybe the sun is in their eyes on the morning commute..I don’t know but it is incredibly scary and I am super cautious going through that light when I take the trail). I have had drivers make illegal left turns from a non-turn lane and force me in between two cars. I have been bounced off the side of a van in Alamo. I have had three cars make left turns right into me because apparently they didn’t see my front lights flashing on my bike. Two finally saw me at the last second…the other I had to nearly lay my bike down to avoid getting hit.

    As for Ironhorse….I also follow the rules of ettiquite there. But I see tons of people wearing headphones who are completely unaware of their surroundings and don’t always maintain a straight line. Numerous people walking large breed dogs, on ‘string’ leashes that they cannot control. I have had two unrestrained dogs chase me. I have come accross numerous ‘gaggles’ of ladies walking 4 or 5 accross on the trail too engaged in conversation or not really caring enough to respond to my calls of “On your left.” A number of them get irritated that I ask them to make room for me to pass. Some elderly ladies have yelled at me for not “calling out” despite me doing so 3-4 times but their conversation or poor hearing interferes. I have had the same group of ladies on another day get startled and yell at me for being too loud with my call outs (seriously I can’t win).

    Some things I have learned since I have started cycling to work:
    1) You have to be hyper vigilante when you are driving. Cyclists can be everywhere and not all have flashing lights and brightly colored outfits. Once you seriously start riding you realize just how exposed you are out there.
    2) If a cyclist screws up (runs a stop sign, or a red light, etc.) they run a huge risk of ending their life not the life of the driver of the car. Cyclists may seem like an annoyance to drivers….but drivers of vehicles can become executioners with one bad decision (blown red light/stop sign, distracted driving etc.)
    3) The majority of cyclists due obey the traffic laws and want nothing more than to be left alone to make it safely to their destinations. But there are a lot of drivers, and passengers of cars who don’t want to peacefully coexist with cyclists. It’s not uncommon to have drivers flip the bird, scream profanities, throw things out their cars, drive aggressively towards cyclists, etc. So really….it’s really the cyclists exhibiting the boorish, unacceptable behavior? Many folks forget, most cyclists own cars and many used to commute some or most of their miles by car…they know that side of the equation. What would be instructive is if some of the folks with unflattering views of cyclists, started to ride to work on a bike. Do it for about a month and you will: 1) fall in love with it, 2) get in better shape, 3) reduce stress, 4) feel better, 5) look better, 6) improve your health, 7) reduce traffic and air pollution in your community AND 8) you will understand better where cyclists are coming from.

  22. Spend some time in France and you’ll realize that cars and bikes can co-exist. Over there, cyclists are revered because EVERYONE is a cyclist: from 5 year olds to 65 year olds, everyone rides, nearly everyone races or rides in club/group rides. It’s a way of life, it’s healthy, and as Americans are quickly finding out, it’s cheap transportation too. Yes, the road system needs to be better designed with wider shoulders, traffic circles, better off-road paths etc, but that’s not happening overnight.

    For now, drivers need to just BE PATIENT with cyclists and share the road. A group of cyclists that adds 5 minutes to your trip time is no different than coming upon a traffic jam of cars. Both have equal rights to the road. Seeing cyclists should make you feel good, knowing that they are out there keeping their bodies healthy, having fun, and not polluting the environment.

  23. “Can I just ask what the big deal is for bicyclists to ride single file in the bike lane, instead of 4 across, all talking and socializing while riding?

    Honestly, if you can’t deal with riding a bicycle in single file instead of right next to 3 others, you probably have some bigger issues to deal with.”

    Can I ask why all the motorists on 680 don’t drive in the right lane only and let me drive past them at 85mph in the left lane?

    Group riding is a social sport, it’s fun, it’s healthy, and a big group riding 2 abreast isn’t going to inconvenience you more than a few minutes every few days or weeks at most even along the same route.

    As the driver of a 3,000 lb car, you have a responsibility to be safe and safeguard the lives of all those around you, other drivers, bikes, walkers, whether or not they’re in “your way” and whether or not you like what they’re doing.

  24. And BTW, I dream of the day when gas is $20/gallon and I can ride my bike on 880, 680, 80, with 50,000 other cyclists and not a car in sight. Cars are the problem, not bikes. Next time you get fumed because you have to slow down for a bike, maybe that would be a good time to reflect on why you are in such a big hurry and why you aren’t out on a bike yourself.

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